No Man Knows.....

Man doesn't know the day or the hour but it definatley does not say year, The year if Israel becoming a nation is important and that generation will not pass away til all be fulfilled. The Rapture year I believe will be 2009, or 2010. Jesus also fulfilled everything up to Pentecost, but the rest of Israel's feast days are not yet fulfilled, called Daniels 70th week. The next to be fulfilled will be around Oct. of 2009.  Messiah is cut off at 62 weeks, some say the week could be like a year to God. Rapture would take all who are saved out and we would gain Heaven, but the Earth would lose Christ as Paul says to live is Christ to die or rapture is gain. Psalms:90:10: The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away(rapture hopefully for me "fly away"). So a generation being 70 years. M't:24:34: Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. And Israel becoming a nation,and that 70 years wont pass til all be fulfilled(fig tree parable).

WWJDER's Fail

People who say they do what Jesus says to do but fail to realize He says Gentiles are blessed through Israel, while they are right with God are wrong, He says it many times too ; 1)M't:25:32: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats. This is all about the Gentiles blessing(sheep) Israel or cursing(goat) Israel.2) M't:15:27: And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. When Israel is right with God as a nation the Gentiles are blessed through Israel, they are a mediator between Gentiles being blessed by God or not,just like our 1st example.3) The Proselyte program the bible talks of many times in the bible; Joh:4:20: Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship(Gentiles to have fellowship among the Jewish nation as a family in the Old Testament are called strangers among them and they do the same ordinances or that soul(Jew or proselyte/Gentile) is cut off).4)And Ac:10:2: A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway. Israel after the cross is right with God til they fall away and this example shows a Gentile blessed once again by blessing Israel . Many more examples could probably be listed if one studied it out. In conclusian; To many churches apply Jewish age doctrine but in this age Israel is fallen as a nation, and we are blessed and brought nigh by faith in the cross only=Dispensation of Grace. Regardless if Jew or Gentile in this age if not saved and die you go to Hell, doesn't matter if you have Abraham as father or not.

A True Dispensationalist

Many Pastors and Churches believe they are Dispensational, but they fail by an easy criteria; if you don't believe some thing's end, as well as some thing's carry over into the new dispensation you fail miserably. The most common error is saying that they are Progressive Dispensational and believe God just builds on the previous age with nothing ending, or what they choose by their own mind. As Mid Acts I believe what Paul writes about in his books to the Gentile saved(2Cor. -Phileman), if they can be found earlier in the bible it's stuff carried over obviously. Which having the bible as my final authority always is better then my own opinion. If a Pastor is using his own opinion as what carries over or not, I also would leave that church. But of course I would leave many churches because they are not Pauline, and Paul is the Apostle of this age or your wrong and how can God bless you?

Blind

Why do most of our so called Christian churches run around acting like there are Christians before the end of the gospels? The cross hasn't happened until then, God is dealing with unregenerated man; meaning a man in the history of the bible could not be born again until the cross. So you could say the Old Testament which is anytime before the cross is carnal man at their best and worst. If you go to a church that acts like Christians are before the cross I would leave, its not really hard to understand, I have very little bible college and even I understand.

Tonights lesson for a group of 5

The times they are a changing til 2nd cor.; To begin with in Genesis 2:16,17 and 3:5 The only work they had to do was avoid eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil; They only knew good at this time and weren,t fallen from disobedience/grace, until they ate from it. So the 1st time we see people in history; Adam and Eve they are perfect having no evil in them until they disobey God. Genesis 3:15 In this verse we see God prophecy a future event which will be the cross; Jesus` heal is bruised on the cross, but He will conquer Satan by it. Prophecy is always about future events until they happen. As we continue our study we will see that God has other plans concerning salvation for mankind until the cross would happen. In 4:7 we see also that works once again play a part in man being accepted of God; this time its not avoid eating from a tree, but doing well or evil and sin takes over if they do evil(Conscience). We must understand that nobody died and went to Heaven until the cross happened. If they did well and were accepted of God they were saved from Hell but not to Heaven, because God had prophesied how man would get to Heaven but He wasnt ready to implement it yet. Genesis 17:7-14 God is calling a Jewish/Hebrew nation by the circumcision they are accepted of God if they don't circumcise then the soul/eternal destiny of the person is cut off from God. This Circumcision Covenenant between God and the Jewish nation we find never ends/everlasting. What happens to the other nations that aren't Jewish at this time? 1st way GEN27:29 bless Israel or not accepted of God. 2nd way will be found In Genesis17:12 if Gentiles(strangers) wanted to be among the Jewish nation they will have to do everything they do. In Exodus we find another work this Jewish nation with Gentiles among them have to do, EXO12:14 .....ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.EXO12:15 ... that soul shall be cut off from Israel. This passover is like Circumcision everlasting, or the soul once again is cut off. EXO12:19 Seven days shall there be no leaven found in your houses: for whosoever eateth that which is leavened, even that soul shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he be a stranger, or born in the land. So far we see that now a nation called Hebrews/Jews are called out of nations, and other nations are strangers and eventually called Gentiles can bless them or be cursed if they don't and join them but they have to do everything the Jews do; these are eventually called Proselytes. These two things for Israel(Circumcision,feast of passover) and those who aren't Jews(Bless Israel,or proselyte/become). In MAT23:15 We find the word Proselyte still going on in Matthew, Many leaders of Israel are rejecting Jesus as the Messiah that was prophesied long ago to take them to Heaven (bruise heel ..). Also a new work to do has been added to be accepted of God MAT6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.What is this Kingdom of God? LUK17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Simply put its God's Spirit within you. How one gets the Kingdom fo God is the most important topic of the bible. In Acts2:38 we see the Jewish church/nation(with proselytes) gets it by water. ROM11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
ROM11:2 -11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. What this text is showing us is that we don't have to go through teh jewish nation anymore to be accepted of God. Because they rejected as a nation the Saviour. Only a small amount of Jews are saved not a whole nation.Eph2:12-13

Works right away until cross and after in Jewish church age

As early as Genesis 4:7: If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him. So we can see that good works were implemented right away. Many churches believe its been the message of the cross all along. But that is merely opinion, definately not bible truth. Lets get this straight nobody died and went to Heaven until the cross. That settled we find that man could be right with God by good works as the original sentence and verse shows, and many verses in the bible. M't:19:29: And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.M'r:10:17: And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?M'r:10:18: And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.M'r:10:19: Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.M'r:10:20: And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.M'r:10:21: Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.Ac:2:38: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized(water baptism) every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost(Spirit baptism).Ph'p:3:6: Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.Ph'p:3:9: And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith. Someday I hope people will not go by opinion but by the bible, but of course that won't happen until we are in heaven for most.

Proselyte

All bad bible dividing done by the churches of today have one main thing in common; they don't know what the word proselyte means, and why its in the bible. It is the main failing of the church today. When the Jewish nation is right with God Gentiles either bless Israel called sheep nations, or become a Jew called Proselyte. In fact if they would simply know this fact they would get out of Acts 1-7 the only Gentile there is a Proselyte. And it would stop them from misapplying the rest of the bible. But Jesus said it Himself a little leaven leavens the whole lump; the leaven today is ignoring or misunderstanding the word Proselyte.